We last heard from Lady Lifer ahead of her public hearing for commutation on May 9th, 2025. Wellโฆ SHE WAS SET FREE on June 18th, 2025 after serving 38 years of a LIFE sentence!! One of the fastest commutation turn arounds to date! Our Co-Executive Director BL Shirelle got a chance to catch up with her on how sheโs been doing since being released. FREE THEM ALLโฆ wellโฆ maybe not ALL lolโฆ
I sat down with Dannielle over Zoom, but after some struggling to get that to work on her end, we switched to a Google Meet which did the trick on her end. For someone whoโs been away from tech for 38 years, I was impressed!
Edited by BL Shirelle
BL Shirelle: I love your patience and excitement with figuring out this tech driven world, thatโs refreshing. When you said youโre a nerd, and youโre embracing the challenge of learning technology, thatโs good. Because for anyone whoโs done like 20+ years, thatโs the biggest challenge. Adjusting to all this tech stuff, but youโre gonna do great. I can feel it.
Dannielle Hadley: Thank you. Well, I plan on going to school. I wanna be a webmaster. I want to design websites and pages, maybe even write some code. Weโll see.
BL Shirelle: Oh wow, thatโs wonderful. Iโm not super techie, but Iโm good enough to get by. Iโm learning, though. I damn sure donโt know how to build a website. I know how to put stuff on it, make it look good, but the back end? Yeah, I donโt know. Youโre gonna have to teach me some of that.
Dannielle Hadley: (Laughs) Yeah, we can help each other out. Iโm learning as I go, too. I know we got it.
Dannielle Hadley & family.
BL Shirelle: I love that. So, how have you been? I know itโs a lot to adjust to.
Dannielle Hadley: Iโm okay. I had to fight to get my birth certificate and ID, but I got it. Now, Iโm trying to schedule doctorโs appointments, take care of my health. But Iโm thankful, Iโm blessed. Iโm just embracing each day, taking it one day at a time.
BL Shirelle: Amen. Thatโs all you can do, really. So, how long have you been home now? When we talked before, you were getting ready to cook for your sons. How long have you been spending nights out of the halfway house?
Dannielle Hadley: I donโt spend the night yet โ just go from 1pm to 7pm. But yeah, Iโve been going to church first, then to my momโs from 1pm to 7pm. Just really enjoying that time with family. Iโve been home 5 weeks now and I still truly canโt believe it.
BL Shirelle: Howโs that been, getting back with your family? I know for you, youโve always been close with your family, but some people struggle with reuniting after so many years. Has it been hard for you, or do you feel like itโs just picking up where you left off?
Dannielle Hadley: Iโve never been without them. My mom kept me in the loop. I watched my kids and grandkids grow up. We stayed in touch through letters and calls. I always had input on decisions being made regarding their well being. Being with them now, physically โ sometimes, it still feels surreal. I have to remind myself this is real. Itโs a blessing, and I donโt take it for granted. Iโm just so thankful. The other day I was showing them cards and letters they wrote to me when they were little. I kept every single one of them.
Dannielle Hadley introduces the song and sings in choir.
BL Shirelle: Thatโs beautiful. And God rest your momโs soul. I was so sad when I heard she passed right before your hearing. But honestly, when I heard that devastating news โโ something told me you were about to get out. Itโs like God works in mysterious ways, doesnโt he?
Dannielle Hadley: He really does. When he shows up, he shows up. Sometimes you donโt know when or how, but you just gotta trust that itโs gonna happen. It doesnโt happen without work on your part though. Sometimes, people canโt face the gravity of their actions. They get defensive. I understand that, too. Itโs hard to take responsibility for something heavy. But you canโt really grow if you donโt own up to it. God works through the things that matter most to us. Heโll find a way to make us see, even if itโs in a different form than we expect.
BL Shirelle: Yeah, and Iโve been thinking about that lately โ about forgiveness. Not just asking for it, but living it. Itโs about showing it in your actions and how you move forward.
Dannielle Hadley: Thatโs the key. Asking for forgiveness is one thing, but showing it in how you live โ thatโs the real work. You gotta walk the walk.
BL Shirelle: Exactly. So, let's talk about food! What have you been cooking lately? You said you cooked for your sons recently.
Dannielle Hadley: I made some short thighs, and I made a honey mustard sauce. Something I'm sure they had never tasted before. I took some honey, some Dijon mustard, some Worcester sauce and an orange and mixed them together and marinated the chicken with it. I mixed some black beans and some corn, cut up some red peppers, a yellow pepper and some onions; cooked it in butter. I made some white rice and poured it on top of itโฆ they thought it was delicious! My son's always talking about โwe donโt want that jailhouse food!!โ [Laughs] I had to show emโ something.
BL Shirelle: That sounds amazing! Youโve got me wanting some. I still love Chi-Chiโs. Even after all these years.
Dannielle Hadley: [Laughs] Iโm not a fan of Chi-Chi. But, hey, to each their own! I still love mackerel and rice and potato balls though!
BL Shirelle: You havenโt had mine yet! I make a mean one. Iโll show you how itโs done in the free world. So, when I was recently in New York you asked me for some pictures. Youโve always been into exploring new places. Whereโs the first place you want to go when you can?
Dannielle Hadley: I wanna go visit my cousin in Hawaii, and Iโve got family in California and Virginia too. I really wanna travel abroad โ Germany and England are at the top of my list. My cousin travels the world, and we used to go on road trips when we were younger. We would just hop in the car and go without a real destination. Now, I just wanna see the world.
BL Shirelle: I feel you. Wherever your heart takes you, I hope you get to go.
Dannielle Hadley: Iโm gonna make it happen. I feel it coming.
BL Shirelle: Since youโve been out, how often do you think about prison and the women still in there? I know itโs gotta be on your mind a lot.
Dannielle Hadley: Every day. Someone reaches out to me almost daily, and I think about my sisters whoโve been there. Itโs hard knowing theyโre still stuck. I donโt want them to give up hope. Iโm writing letters, sending cards, doing what I can to let them know theyโre not forgotten.
BL Shirelle: Yeah, weโve gotta keep that fight going. Our next focus is on getting Miss Bert and Miss Brenda out. We need to keep that pressure on.
Dannielle Hadley: Once my feet are under me just a little bit, Iโll do whatever I can. I want to set up a website, write letters, and keep the cause alive. Canโt be out here and not look back. People like us, whoโve been through it, weโre the ones who will appreciate freedom the most. Weโre gonna make the most of this second chance. Iโm all in.
BL Shirelle: Absolutely, FREE THEM ALL!!
BL Shirelle & Dannielle Hadley (Simultaneously): Well, not ALL!! (both laugh)
BL Shirelle: Itโs funny we both feel the same about this. The vast majority of lifers and long termers are either completely rehabilitated or aged out, but there is a small 2% who are genuinely not good people. The whole thing with [Pennsylvania Governor] Shapiro is heโs very slow to act. Iโve been a bit skeptical and critical about him. He killed our momentum for a second. It was like he didnโt want to touch anything to mess up his chances for something bigger โ heโs obviously trying to be a national star or something. Since heโs signed off on your release, Iโm starting to feel hopeful. We just gotta keep the pressure on him.
Itโs a certain person who wanted my support and I couldnโt vouch for them. Because you ainโt gonna mess this movement up. In my experience youโre a horrible person. That would hurt so many peopleโs chances. If I truly believe that you're not worthy, I canโt support you. Iโm sorry โ itโs for the greater good.
Dannielle Hadley: Yes, you know me, Iโm doing my best to stay on the path that was put before me and not have those judgmental feelings and attitudes. But dude, come on. Nope, it's 99 years later, youโre literally still the same person.
We just gotta make it clear: this is non-negotiable. There are people whoโve been in for 40, 50 years. Theyโve paid their dues. They donโt need to be there any longer. If you put your money on us, weโre gonna make the best of this second chance. We wonโt let you down. The vast majority of us.
BL Shirelle: So in terms of needsโฆ whatโs your priority list? What are you focusing on right now? Anything we can help you with?
Dannielle Hadley: Yeah, so the first thing I need is a mattress. A really good mattress. I also need to get some teeth. I donโt have all my teeth, just the front ones. I really need some new ones. And of course, housing. I donโt want to live with my sons. I could stay there, but I want to have my own space. Iโve got plenty of places I could lay my head, but I want a house or apartment, you know? Iโm willing to work for it.
BL Shirelle: Good priorities. I love that.
If youโd like to shoot Ms. Dannielle some coin, her cash app is $DannielleHadley.
You can also follow her on IG! @hadleydannielle
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